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Quote by: Boetie Question by Athena: I think something has gone seriously wrong with our culture, and it might be linked to the Great Depression and world war?
I think it has more to do with mass amnesia. Before the stock market crash in 1929 life was brutal. You had men living in houses with six bathtubs made out of solid gold and men living in shantys and all the while these guys with the gold bathtubs spew out the cliche that the men in the shantys were getting a fair wage. Women could not vote, Indians didn't have the status of a person and blacks were free under a jim crow society. The movement that changed all this has now been demonized do to the successful propaganda of the right. |
Thanks for your perspective. I think you have made the best statement. You have demostrated what makes democracy work. It is not the smartest, put the input of the many that manifest the best understanding. We are too distant from our past.
Okay, we adopted the English model of autocracy for industry. Christianity supported autocracy in Europe, and therefore, supports it in the US. What does this have to do with feminism? Patriarchy and the enslavement of women and others for the benefit of those in power. When the US was up in arms about slavery, women in the west were protesting that their plight was over looked. It was custom to marry them off soon after they were 14 to men who were only interested in having someone do their laundry and cooking and cleaning. Anywhere at any time, poverty has might ugly conditions for women and children, and just because these married, the conditions of their slavery wasn't any better than it was for blacks.
Until the social uprising in the 1960's the whole of our society was organized to keep women dependent and at home. This was not all bad. I am in favor of women being full time homemakers. But the economic restraints did hold humanity down in negative ways.
Today the saracity of good men is so obvious! Women are no longer forced to be dependent on them, and yes, this does mean government providing welfare. But darn, is it impossible raise the standard for men and women? I mean is there anything we can do to men and women better suited for family life? I like to think the problem is most young men, but I am not sure older ones are any better. Some of the things men have said in these forums, has caused me to loose faith in men in general. The ones who impress me well, are the married ones. There are not enough of them.