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Old Aug 24, 2005, 04:31 pm   #8 (permalink) (top)
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China attempted the capitalist game of bidding for a company on the open market recently. It was rebuffed as if they were attempting to buy the White House. Two points. The rival bidder, another US firm saw off it's challenge and got the US firm for a bargain. Second, China is the BIGGEST corporation in the WORLD. It will not lose face. It will buy bigger now than before to make the original deal look like peanuts.
[CENTER]Then it plonks down more than $5 billion to buy Calgary-based oil company PetroKazakhstan.[/CENTER]


China has not shown itself to be expansionist either in recent or in many millennium of history. There was one 'extra border' event where it got a bloody nose that most will have forgotten that will reinforce this policy. Yes it took Tibet. This and other satellites were regarded as part of China. It was sought only that Taiwan acknowledge its parentage.

If I had to be a neighbour of either the US or China, who would I choose. My heart would say the USA but my brain and history would say China EVERY TIME.

This would not alone be based on the top American diplomat is a first class BULLY.

It would not be based on military power at ALL. Watching Iraq and other recent escapades of the US military, I don't believe you have more than a big damp bang to offer. I'm reminded in history of Genghis Khan and his horde sweeping aside the hugely powerful knights on their tanks of horses. While contemplating this, remember the Iraq-Iran War. That was virtually men against machine, with the machines being American. The men won. The US has no idea what is intending taking on if it invades IRAN. Iraq will seem like a cakewalk compared. Attacking Iran while not subduing Iraq is so crazy that only this administration would even contimplate it.

I got this out of the way early as Americans only see this US via The REST in a military sense. The list of reasons is far longer than the military and Bolton.

Flip flap was a great expression in the last election. Well here's another flip flap. Now neocons will be totally blind to this so save time and jump forward. The biggest FLIP FLOP in a decade was the relationship of the Bush administration with the UNITED NATIONS, and the flipping and flopping was not done by the UNITED NATIONS. The bush gang are brilliant at accusing others of exactly what they are best at themselves. On at least three occasions I have asked that those bush-lights that repeat UN accusations that they would substantiate their platitudes. No evidence yet!

It's not that you have a neanderthal who doesn't believe in dinosaurs, leading your government. Nor nuts that believe the earth is younger than we have man-made structures in Ireland. Nor that you tear yourselves apart over a lady dead for a decade while executing criminals, who all seem to be all black. Nor your love for bio-crops while preventing stem cell research. No, these all go in the 'Only In America' box that we in 'old' Europe take out often to see how sane we are over here.

It little things when you unilaterally breach internally agreed agreements on the environment. When the biggest polluter on the planet decides to continue in its old bad bad ways. When short term gain is GOD and the planet's health doesn't get a look in. When even the little environment protection law of your own country doesn't matter.

It like then you brow beat us to eventually agree trade agreements and then are the first to breaches the rules. And who do you bully most, of course it is those countries who can least stand up to your bullying.

I touched on a few of the reasons why its not wise to rely on the US. There are a huge range of internal problems that are your business but seem to be uniquely US problems for some reason. The is one item that effects your relationship with virtually the rest of the world. It was this issue that sparked my initially interest in what was going on in the US, as it just made NO sense to me. After being up close to the topic, it still makes NO sense to me.

The issue of course is Israel. Your relationship with the world is defined by your relationship with Israel. I believe that behind the sharp cutting remarks that I'm a reasonable person who very much wants to understand what is all about. It is costing you so so much in Money, Prestige, Relationships, 9/11, Iraq deaths, and on and on and I cannot fathom a logic to it. I'm convinced that the fundamental christians have been subverted in a pre-Christ religion. Where love your neighbour is now kill thy neighbour. Where the Ten Beatitude are replaced entirely by Ten Commandment. Do you see love or hate in America? Maybe I could not have got away with asking this before Pat Robertson's kill speech. Now a church leader calls for murder.

Last week when there was wall to wall coverage on CNN of the illegal settlers, which side were your sympathies with. Was it the well disciplined police and troops on the receiving end of acid, paint and anything else. Or was it with the illegal settlers, half a step from full terrorists. Who's side were you on. After you have answered, maybe, then I have a further observation. First, tell me the number of threads started on the hottest topic, the top story of two days. America the brave, or America the embarrassed, or America the what. All waiting for some one else to start a thread? If I did it would have been predictable. Right Matt? No, I deliberately held fire. My observation? If those well trained police and soldiers had show one tenth of that discipline in the last 30 years, would the Middle East be in the mess it is now. Does their discipline when dealing with fellow jews not prove that Israel is RACIST!!!
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