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Old Aug 15, 2005, 01:24 pm   #30 (permalink) (top)
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Flip said:
I am in incredibly experienced and hardcore gamer and feel I can put in my two cents here. While I know it is certainly the responsibility of the parents to moniter kids and regulate what they do and see, I do think video games have a horrible habit of using excessive violence and sex to sell their products. I think there should be regulations, because it is impossible for a parent to keep track of every game a kid plays. Kids play what they can get ahold of whether a parent knows or not.

I say:
So you are saying all of the people should suffer, because you want to protect kids? You are saying that adults aren't responsible enough to be held for their actions? Kids smoke pot, smoke cigarettes, play show and tell, have underage sex, plot about how they would like stick bubble-gum in mary-janes hair, and plot how to best place a firework in a mailbox to acheive greatest explosive benefit. NO SHIT! Kids will be kids, and it is the ADULTS RESPONSIBILITY to ENSURE they are teaching their kids the limits of play. If one kid has a cool parent who lets their child get the game nobody elses parents will let them get, what do you think is going to happen? THEY WILL ALL GO PLAY AT HIS HOUSE.

Parents are responsible for the little monsters they create. If you can't monitor your kids, you should have them taken away, instead of taking away all entertainment venues for adults in the name of "protecting" the kids. That mentality is flawed beyond belief.

Flip said:
I think instead of the ESRB, the games should have a detailed list of everything questionable in the game. It should say there is swearing, sex, violence, gore, and whatever. ESRB does this to an extent, but parents should have a better idea of what a game contains. I don't know if we should have T or M rated games, but parents should look at what a game contains, and decide if they want their kid to play that.

I say:
I think ESRB is more than enough, and it was done VOLUNTARILY by the gaming industry. People are responsible enough to understand what the rating means by READING it, and if parents want to know more before they buy, they can always play the demo BEFORE purchasing the game for little Johnny.

Flip said:
Those of you who claim violent games have no effect on kids have got to be joking. I myself a gamer, recognize that certain games have either hardened me against certain things or made me get angry easier. I have seen this in fellow gamers as well. Gamers have a tendency to learn lose their temper, especially those who like violent of competitive games.

I say:
Yea football is not a violent fiercely competitive game, nor is soccer, nor is hockey, nor is DODGEBALL. GET REAL HERE!!!!! LIFE IS A COMPETITIVE GAME THAT PUTS ANY VIDEO GAME TO SHAME.

You have to compete for every thing you do in life. Life itself is competititon, and it is one of the main forces that contributed to the creation of this nation, as well as the American Dream. People who are trying to Politically Correctionalize the world are the ones with the problem, because they can't accept they are responsible for their own actions, and the kids they bring into this COLD HARD COMPETITIVE WORLD.

Kubedawg said:
I would definately have to agree with you there because a lot of my friends, and I'm not just sayin 2 or 3, but I know of at least 15-20 of my friends get pissed when losing in a video game. Some people just take it way too seriously. But that happens with all kinds of games. But, you know the feeling of trying to spend hours mastering a game and have a buddy come over and kick your ass at it. Yeah... That feeling... Just makes you wanna throw things, hey whataya know, I have a controler in my hand!

I say:
If you can't control your emotions when you lose, it is sportsmanship you need to work on, not limiting everyones type of entertainment. Stop pushing of responsibility on everyone else and step up and realize rage doesn't excuse your violent reactions, nor does LOSING.

Kubedawg said:
Anyway. Video games are fun, it's the best form of entertainment. But there has to be limits set on how old kids should be able to view/play games like this. Same thing goes for movies as well.

I say:
They have them. Its called ESRB rating system.

Kubedawg said:
Hell I watched rated R movies when i was 10 years old and I'm sure lots of others do as well, but some kids just plain cannot comprehend these things and it causes bad things to happen. I agree on whoever said that we need to have kids learn these things when they are able to comprehend them. thats the only way. I was taught about death at a very young age, my parents didn't BS with me, they told me the truth, that my grandmother died and went to heaven. And I believe that may ave helped me understand at an early stage that people die, and my uncle taught me the difference between real life and games because he was the one that introduced me to them.

I say:
So put the blame on where the blame is due. PARENTS NOT RAISING THEIR CHILDREN IN A RESPONSIBLE FASHION.

Kubedawg said:
People have different backgrounds and different stories, but how do we set the par?

I say:
You set the par, by following the law. If your child is under 18, and you want to buy him/her and adult rated game, you had better explain why you are letting them get it, what is important to know, and that you will take it away if any irresponsiblity starts to surface from them. You become an active parent in raising your child, ensuring they are learning all you can teach them about life, and their rights.

You don't do that by taking away the rights of all adults.


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