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International responsibility? LOL. Not gonna happen while we have a Constitution, and while I live and breathe. Our country is not supposed to be a tool for wealth redistribution even though the U.N. likes to think of us that way. People who complain about starvation in poor countries like Africa need to get off their ass and devote their life to it IN AFRICA if that is how they feel, and stop crying for more of OUR TAX DOLLARS to go to help people in foreign nations when we cannot control the corruption in our own. OUR PEOPLE, OUR FOREFATHERS AND ALL OF OUR PAST COUNTRYMEN DEDICATED THEIR LIFE TO FINANCIAL AND PHYSICAL LIBERTY, so to deem their dedication and current following for this is laughable when our entire existence is built around INDEPENDENCE. It's funny how so many of our "Hollywood stars" cry out for these aid benefits, yet when it comes to lowering their living standards to that of a working man, and donating the rest of that money to their pet cause, it becomes less important suddenly.
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Osborn
Athena, I really want to change Osborn's name to Zues. For those of you not familiar with Greek mythology, Zues is the father of Athena. The people of Athens debated the same things we are debating today, but today we operate on a larger scale. Athens colonized areas around Athens, and for awhile was the strongest naval power and held control over much of coastal areas. When it abused this power, all the Greek city/states united against Athens, and supported Spartan which destroyed Athens democracy. Here we are again today, discussing our international responsibility and avoiding being attacked.
I want to point out, when the US was founded, the world was nothing as it is today. The US was self sufficient and didn't really need to important anything.
Today we should understand, the abondance of US wasn't just about how it was governed, but was also the result of a mineral wealth that has since been exhausted, shifting the US from an exporting nation building a huge banking wealth, to an importing nation that must borrow from other nations to keep going. Oborn, we must be careful to repeat the mistake the Athens. As was so for Athens, our present wealth depends on our military might, and we are making enemies. What justifies war, is a nation deliberately living at the expense of others, consuming the resources of others, to enjoy wealth while improvishing others.
What prevents war is being too valuable to others to destroy, and we need to work on this.
Human decency today, needs to be about all humans, not just self interest. We face an economic decline on the level that has ended civilizations. We won't like the results of reality if it continues to be the self interested reality we have manifest so far.