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Old Aug 13, 2005, 02:36 pm   #43 (permalink) (top)
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My, my, righthand that world famous Irish temper getting you all worked up, I see.
Tempers, maybe. Emotions, certainly. The notion that as you have sacrificed some then you must sacrifice more, is abhorrent to me. That logic means you never stop sacrificing, EVER. Once the invasion started there could never be any going back. MADNESS. Only a war country could accept this logic. Even that Cindy Sheehan's lady is being spoken of as a traitor.[center]
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Not that I'm a fan of Dear Leader or any such, but he really hasn't actually lied about anything... unless you can point out where he has. Please, direct quotes only, no paraphrasing. That's what the right did to paint Al Gore as a liar, and I'd hate to see the left doing the same thing.

In fact, I suspect Dear Leader actually believes most of the nonsense used to justify the war in Iraq... including every new justification after each previous justification proved wrong. Remember how invading Iraq was going to send a message to the rest of the 'Axis of Evil' and intimidate them into towing the line? Well obviously Iran and North Korea, two nations with nuclear potential and very clear connections to terrorists, are obviously cowering in fear of what the U.S. will do.

He 'misled' us, because he himself was misled by his willingness to believe what he's told, his lack of intellectual depth and curiosity, and his unflinching pigheadedness.
First let me say that I know you are drawing me out and the case you put forward is not meant to be real. On that basis I'll only give one example, but its a biggie.

I suppose we must first set parameters as to what is a lie. If you believe in God and I say God does not exist, is that a lie? To you it's a lie to me its not. You cannot prove God exists and all the mega-shouting will not change that. Yet if 99.99999% believed there was a God, then I'd be very stupid - and I'm not - to continue saying there was no God. So what?

Well my proof that BUSH IS A LIER is the same as the above God thing.

A major justification of the war Saddam's connection with 9/11. He MIGHT have genuinely have believed there was a connection at one time. Early evidence was that he was WRONG. He set up Commissions to delay the issue. All eventually stated there was no connection between Saddam and 9/11. For their future promotions ambassadorships etc it was in their interest to find the evidence if there was ANY. NONE. ZERO. I believe that he always knew it was a LIE. He's LYING now and he'll LIE tomorrow.

The only alternative is that on TWO occasions you have 'elected' the BIGGEST GOBSHITE in History. Yes there have been Big Gobshites before, but not elect by 'all' the people. If he does not know that he's lying then he's brain dead. His handlers must tell him before every briefing "Please, please please don't mention Saddam and 9/11 in the same sentence." Maybe they should try some reverse psychology, but that needs a function brain to work. Regan had al least the excuse of old age. Bush is just a dumb young man, you choose.

Need I say any more. Well just WMD to be going on it.
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