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*The theory of evolution mandates that ALL change is by chance. Any design at all; even by aliens, obviates evolution.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>
Not at all. Human interaction with other species, as by breeding them, is part of evolution too. It couldn't happen without evolution.
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Originally Posted by *Creation science says God made it the way he wanted it.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>
But it doesn't allow that God may have wanted evolution.
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Originally Posted by *Anthropic principle: An observation that it seems that the entire world, solar system, universe is designed especial for man, or man for it.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>
There are several versions of the anthropic principle. I don't know that any of them say the universe is designed especially for humanity. But some do say it was especially designed for living things. Others say that a life-supporting universe is one of many possible outcomes of an initial event such as the big bang, and--lucky for us--this universe hit the jackpot and developed into to life-supporting universe.
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Originally Posted by *Intelligent design says that since it seems that so much of life was designed, it must be. The identiy of the designer is left to the individual.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>
Not a very good line of evidence. Sounds more like wishful thinking. It must be so because I think it must be so.
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Originally Posted by *Theistic evolution: (Worst of both worlds) It's not evolution, because it was designed by God, and it's not Creation because God is a (albeit powerful, but) bumbling idiot who could only guide evolution.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>
Best of both worlds, IMHO. It is evolution and it is creation. It is a misrepresentation to picture the God of the theistic evolutionist as a bumbling idiot. IMO it takes a great deal more vision, wisdom, patience and love to nurture and guide an evolutionary process than to zap things into instant existance. Just as it takes more vision, wisdom, patience and love to guide and nurture a real living child than to play with a doll.
In fact, it seems to me that much of the creationist problem with evolution and other facets of modern science, is that creationists seem much more comfortable with the Newtonian concept of the universe as mechanism. Science has found that concept to be inconsistent with reality. Whatever it is, the universe is not a huge clockwork with God's hands on the levers.
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Originally Posted by Creation is not evolution. Evolution mandates a godless accident, Creation mandates a creation by God. Equating them does a disservice to the both of them.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>
Evolution is not accidental. It is an understandable and even manipulable process. It certainly does not mandate godlessness. Nor does it deny creation or a creator God.