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Old Aug 9, 2005, 05:07 pm   #40 (permalink) (top)
Sonart
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Can you mention any specific situations?
Among those things I pointed to in post #8, was there something not specifically traceable to human activity of one sort or another?

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Politically catering to special interest groups who are anti human progress and anti property rights is what I personally object to.
Who's anti-human progress? What do you define as progress? Is developing mass fishing technologies to the point where we deplete the oceans of fish progress? Is artificially fertilizing massive tracts of farmland, to the point where the runoff begins destroying life on the continental shelves progress? Is creating useable energy by burning fuels to the point where we alter the very earth's climate progress? Is incrementally destroying the earth we live on progress? The way I see it, progress is learning from the past, understanding how far we can and can't go in stretching the earth's environment, and developing new ways of maintaining the global equilibrium that's sustained life on this planet for eons... and right now we're not doing that.

And property rights? At what point does what you claim as your right to do whatever you chose with your property and what harm you do to the local or global environment conflict? Does your property rights extend to everything downwind? Everything downstream? The surrounding water table? The surrounding environment and micro-climate? Do your property rights permit you to destroy coral reefs hundreds of miles away because of the chemical runoff from your factory farms?

Mankind has reached the point where the special interest of saving the planet from slow destruction is going to have to trump the special interests of making profits from that destruction. That's the new definition of progress.

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