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Old Aug 7, 2005, 07:28 pm   #15 (permalink) (top)
SteveA
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Question one was about paying workers as little as possible...
I agree, minimum wage for many people says you must be paid $0/hour. Ironic how stated as intended to increase wages (and indirectly tax rates) has the exact opposite effect and this isn't the only such program with similar unexpected consequences.

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I agree wholeheartedly! Anarchy does only work among people who share the same general views. FREEDOM AND EQUALITY! One cannot exist without the other.
Freedom and equality aren't necessarily the same thing. If I were to force two people to be equal, they wouldn't be free would they? But I know what you likely meant - equal rights and protections and yes, there's no way to maintain a society that treats too many people unfairly or people will just withdraw their support and/or leave so the only stable way to do it is to respect everyones freedom equally.

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But in all honesty, even among like-minded individuals, Anarchist societies are complicated affairs. That doesn't mean it's not worth it. Anything worth having is going to take struggle and hard work and compromise and all that.
Yes, I think people would likely have to relearn how to live. We've become so reliant on any form of authority to direct our lives that many people just openly accept anyone claiming to officially represent something. I guess it's fine if you desire it but the sucky part is when everyone wants you to do the same thing ... reminds me of lemmings, though I'm certain if a law were passed declaring everyone was expected to jump of a cliff that many people would quickly rethink things and start wonder what was the intent of government in the first place.

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Finally, about minimal government. If you take away the power of the government, something else will just fill that vaccum, whether it's the state governments or the industries. It doesn't do anything about the inherent problems of authoritarian systems. The powers you want to take away were put there for a reason, and they will be taken away for a reason as well.
Well said and I agree entirely.

I believe that's why you see a lot of people call themselves anarcho-capitalists or anarcho-socialists. Anarchy doesn't fill in any blanks ahead of time for people and what specific form of social interactions envision seems to be the issue.

My big push politically has been for returning to a more decentralized and diverse society. Not everyone is going to agree on everything but if America were allowed to be more of a buffet of different ideologies and lifestyles, people would not only find less politics over conflicts, because they'd have more options available but people could also see the results of different ideologies in real life (as opposed to political debates) and learn (even if it's from the mistakes of others) from these instead of resenting something that noone could truthfully prove may or may not have had merit.

I do believe capitalism and free markets can support a wide variety of ideologies but I've come to accept the fact that it's better if people can just agree to live and let live and respect a few boundaries instead of trying to create everyone else in your own image (it only leads to problems).

The problem is these options don't currently exist ... and I believe it's because there really are some people who really don't want to let loose the leash. We do need to see a change toward greater individual liberty or I think the ship will eventually sink, with people having been denied the ability to build their own life rafts. (Maybe the sky will never fall but last I checked it really does seem a bit lower)


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