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Quote by: shrike I agree with Sharon on this one. We bring our terrorists to justice contrary to Palestinians do nothing to stop them or to bring them to justice. The Palestinians glorifying their terrorists and make them heroes in the eyes of the children so that next generation of suicide bomber will grow up. The terrorists don't need any justification to commit their terror acts. They will do every time when they have possibility .For example in the middle of cease fire the Islam Jihad committed suicide bombing in Netaniya killing 4 civilians.
Btw This soldiers was a deserter so his weapon should have been taken by his commanders. I hope they going to pay for that mistake |
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| Guardian...Natan-Zada's father said he deserted his army unit in protest after he was ordered to help prepare for the pullout and moved to Tapuah, an extremist West Bank settlement.
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Is strange that if he had actually deserted that
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| Guardian...Natan-Zada is also to be buried Friday in a civilian service, after the Ministry of Defense overturned the army's decision to accord him a military funeral without honors, the military said.
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Military funeral for a deserter? The IDF didn't see him as a deserter. Somethings not right here. Something is rotten in the State of....
Why is this important?
WHEN DID THIS MAN BECOME A TERRORIST? Choices -
1. If and when he left the army. AWOL doesn't usually equal terrorist.
2. When he made the decision to do what he did. If at the last moment he changed his mind, then surely he would be only a potential terrorist. If that's a terrorist then it might apply to most of the IDF.
3. When he fired his gun, killing the driver. If he had not subsequently died, would he still be labeled a terrorist.
4. When he died. This is my best bet. He now had no value to the State. When the Prime Minister was assassinated, I do not remember the assassin being treated as a terrorist. Was it because he survived.
5. When Sharon said he was a terrorist. Well he should know. He has plenty of personal experience.
6. Unknown. Have a poll and find out.
Now a little more detail on this killing.
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Guardian "Israeli Police Brace for Possible Riots" ...Friday August 5, 2005 11:01 AM By KRISTEN STEVENS, Associated Press Writer http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlates...191584,00.html
When the bus entered a Shfaram neighborhood, Natan-Zada opened fire on the driver, killing him instantly, witnesses said. The bus rolled on for 20 yards until it hit a parked car and ground to a halt, Haaretz said. Natan-Zada continued shooting inside the bus, which was carrying about 20 passengers. He emptied an entire magazine. When he tried loading a new magazine, one of the passengers jumped him.
Ahkim Janhwi told Israel Radio he wrestled the attacker to the ground and disarmed him - only to be attacked by a confused crowd who thought he was the gunman. When the gunfire erupted ``I immediately lay down between the seats,'' Janhwi said. ``I thought about everybody who is important to me and who I'm important to, and I thought I was a goner. I closed my eyes and heard his footsteps getting closer to me.
People who boarded the bus beat Natan-Zada to death, media reports said. Television stations reported Thursday he was attacked with iron bars and stones. For hours, until the crowd was subdued, the gunman's body lay on the floor of the bus, his head covered with a black plastic bag. His shirtless upper torso was heavily bruised and bloodied.
Police were looking for the people who killed the soldier, Army Radio said. Prime Minister Ariel Sharon issued a statement condemning the attack as ``a despicable act by a bloodthirsty terrorist.'' He called for calm.
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This man was no different than a suicide bomber. He must have known that death was to be expected after the bullets ran out. Had he expectations of being a hero if he survived.
Surely the people who dispatched him were protecting their lives if he still had any means of killing or not. Would you risk it? If the police are "looking for the people who killed the soldier" very hard then there will be more deaths.
Don't let this misguided man and the totally innocent passengers lives be in vain. Try on this occasion to see it from the other sides point of view. Virtually impossible usually, but maybe in the circumstances this time.
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