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Quote by: dotcoma Do not insult me Rick.
How can you judge who is indeed winning the war? We are building up internal security via the Iraqi police, and the culture war can only be solved once you have a clean pallette. That is, only when we have a relatively stable country to rebuild can we truly discourage the fundementalism that infects the entire region.
Also where is your evidence that the majority of Iraqis see us as the probmem? Sources... |
What you take as an insult seems merely good advice to me.
Do you read the news?
Gen. John Abizaid admits that the insurgency is not only not in it's "last throes" as Cheney claims but is at least as strong as a year ago. If he will admit this before Congress I suspect that the insurgency is in fact stronger than a year before. The article that this thread is based on is pretty clear evidence of what is going on. Fallujah was laid waste, 1,500 Iraqis killed, the city totally under US control, yet the insurgency is back. Fallujah not only didn't break the insurgencies back but became a rallying cry.
You comments about a "relatively stable country" are simply delusional. The Bush administration's "CIA believes the Iraq insurgency poses an international threat and may produce better-trained Islamic terrorists than the 1980s Afghanistan war that gave rise to Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda, a US counter-terrorism official said.... Iraq has become a magnet for Islamic militants similar to Soviet-occupied Afghanistan two decades ago and Bosnia in the 1990s, US officials say. "
Iraq insurgency may have international ramifications: CIA
I doubt that you read it but the former CIA chief, John Deutch, called for an immediate pull out of Iraq on tte New York Times OpEd page today.
Time to Pull Out. And Not Just From Iraq.
What do the Iraqis think? The last public opinion poll that I am aware of showed them opposed to the occupation by 80%.
80% in Iraq Distrust Occupation Authority
All your talk about "restructuring" the region and "winning" a culture war, (even as we are losing a shooting war), strikes me as simply self destructive imperialism. We will be paying for our stupidity in Iraq for decades to come. And the longer we stay they worse it will be.