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Old Jul 15, 2005, 02:47 pm   #12 (permalink) (top)
ibm
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I agree that we should not pull out now, and have posted so. However, I say that in the context of a lose/lose situation. We're definitely screwed if we pull out now, and probably still screwed if we stay. However, by staying there's the vague possibility that Iraq could pull a legitimate government out of its ass, so we may as will give it a shot, at least for another year or so. We should not be surprised, however, if that government has a decidedly Islamist, anti-U.S. nature, but at least we can say we put back together what we broke, albeit with gum, string and rubber bands.
sonart, i respectfully disagree. the minute possibility of “at least we can say we put back together what we broke” is not worth so many more lives and so much more of tax monies, let alone the hatred it continues to create.

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Plus, as was pointed out in today's paper, Muslim support for fundamentalist terrorism is collapsing worldwide and positive attitudes for democracy are increasing, which is a positive sign, although antipathy towards the U.S. remains steady. Obviously this has more to do with terrorist attacks against Muslims, rather than attacks against the West, but if it leads to declining support for al-Qaeda, it's good news.
how credible is this news weeks after the london bombing? i very much doubt it, though i don’t see enough evidence to say the opposite.
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