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Originally Posted by Ok rocket scientist Doc, in the US, the states with Concealed carry allowed have far lower crime rates that states that will send to to jail for carrying.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>
That's not always the case. I'm extremely pro-gun but there's no point lying to get our point across -- that's what the gun-grabbers do.
Both Alabama and California are dangerous states. Illinois is a helluva dangerous state, and you can't get permits anywhere, no matter what. Nebraska is uber-safe, and you can't get permits anywhere there, either.
Alaska is universal, but dangerous. Vermont is universal, but safe.
The comparisons are inaccurate, ESPECIALLY if you believe that gun control has no effect on crime. If it doesn't, then the converse is also true, and it isn't.
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Originally Posted by The only counrty I can think of with extreme gun control with a low crime rate is Japan. And Japanese culture pretty much negates guns being an issue anyway.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>
It has nothing to do with a preference for swords (which I don't even think is true, anyway, since the total Japanese homicide rate is extremely low). The Japanese simply view murder differently than we do, and when they do it, they do it expecting to be caught. Their suicide rate is also through the roof.