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Originally Posted by (Packratt) Leftist? You think that people who believe that wealth and money should be the ultimate determining method of how much freedom a person is worthy of are leftists?
Wow, that's a spin on what it means to be a leftist that I've never heard.
If you think libertarians are so far to the left and are so hip on "freedom", then ask one about their thoughts on indentured servitude and listen as they try to justify slavery as a voluntary arangement while keeping in mind that the only choice involved for the slave is the one between a painfull death and servitude and that this is what they mean by voluntary.
When a libertarian says freedom, they mean it only in a limited sense, that they only wish to have their own freedom to do whatever they want TO you.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>
I think you've been fed some inaccurate propaganda about libertarian ideas, or you are confusing libertarians with some other group. Libertarians believe in self-ownership, not other-ownership. A libertarian would never enslave anyone. In fact, the central tenet of libertarianism is the NAP or ZAP, which means non-agression principle, or zero-agression principle.
Here is a popular definition of ZAP by L. Neil Smith
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Originally Posted by "A libertarian is a person who believes that no one has the right, under any circumstances, to initiate force against another human being, or to advocate or delegate its initiation. Those who act consistently with this principle are libertarians, whether they realize it or not. Those who fail to act consistently with it are not libertarians, regardless of what they may claim."
- L. Neil Smith
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Self-ownership doesn't require any amount of money to realize. It isn't just for the rich.
Perhaps you might take a few moments to review this brief, basic FAQ about libertarianism. And I'd be curious to know how or where you acquired your negative and inaccurate view of libertarianism.
Libertarian FAQ