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IronYuppie · Feb 20, 2004, 05:16 pm

</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (SeanWah,)

Treason? Moving in pursuit of my right to life, liberty, and happiness is treason? Working within the system to effect change is treason?
I think you're misguided, arrogant, and fascist, but I guess where we differ is that I would die defending your right to be a misguided, arrogant fascist.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>

You dont have the right to declare yourself or a group of people a sovereign nation. How in the hell is succeeding from the US (which is what this comes down to) "working within the system?"

All the liberties and trappings of civilization you enjoy are due to the collective agreement of the citizens of the US. If you dont like that I suggest you find a deserted island somewhere and you and you fellow dale gribble types can go have a blast there until you overdose on your own collective hubris. Without the government you people despise so much you'd be under rule by a foreign power, or maybe squatting in a cave shoving berries up your nose with a stick; either way you'd be in a sorry state.

I see where you're coming from though, that is I think I have a pretty good picture of the psychology that drives you. Someone disagrees with you, they're a fascist. Someone doens't like your cause, they're ignorant. At least I know enough about the movement to make a semi-informed decision. You're categorizing me in all sorts of nasty ways based on one sentence from me, yet you know nothing about me or my beliefs. I'd guess it's this attitude of hasty hubris that lead you to believe in something like FSP in the first place.

Feb 20, 2004, 05:16 pm	#12 (permalink) (top)
IronYuppie Sedimentary Rock Posts: 9	</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (SeanWah,) Treason? Moving in pursuit of my right to life, liberty, and happiness is treason? Working within the system to effect change is treason? I think you're misguided, arrogant, and fascist, but I guess where we differ is that I would die defending your right to be a misguided, arrogant fascist.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> You dont have the right to declare yourself or a group of people a sovereign nation. How in the hell is succeeding from the US (which is what this comes down to) "working within the system?" All the liberties and trappings of civilization you enjoy are due to the collective agreement of the citizens of the US. If you dont like that I suggest you find a deserted island somewhere and you and you fellow dale gribble types can go have a blast there until you overdose on your own collective hubris. Without the government you people despise so much you'd be under rule by a foreign power, or maybe squatting in a cave shoving berries up your nose with a stick; either way you'd be in a sorry state. I see where you're coming from though, that is I think I have a pretty good picture of the psychology that drives you. Someone disagrees with you, they're a fascist. Someone doens't like your cause, they're ignorant. At least I know enough about the movement to make a semi-informed decision. You're categorizing me in all sorts of nasty ways based on one sentence from me, yet you know nothing about me or my beliefs. I'd guess it's this attitude of hasty hubris that lead you to believe in something like FSP in the first place.