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SeanWah · Feb 20, 2004, 04:57 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (damnrad)
It has been tried before by various groups with widely-varied ideologies. It's only worked for one group -- the Mormons.<hr size="1" /></blockquote>
Actually, a large group of socialists flocked to Vermont, which happens to be NH's neighbor (and part of the reason NH was chosen). And believe me, it's worked there.

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by
I think it's misguided, arrogant, and bordeline treason.<hr size="1" /></blockquote>
Treason? Moving in pursuit of my right to life, liberty, and happiness is treason? Working within the system to effect change is treason?
I think you're misguided, arrogant, and fascist, but I guess where we differ is that I would die defending your right to be a misguided, arrogant fascist.

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Packratt)
It'll be fun to watch a bunch of feudal warlord wannabes run off and try to enslave each other after they can't get any workers to come with them since they all want to be the wealthy autocratic slave-owning boss.<hr size="1" /></blockquote>
You have some misconceptions about libertarianism. The economic side of it is as much in favor of defending the rights and interests of the consumer as it is about the businessman. I happen to diverge from libertarians on a few such issues, but overall, you have to be either misinformed or brutally dishonest to believe the ideal encourages or supports Third World-style sweatshopping in any way.

Anyway, yes, I support the FSP and I'm actively a member.

Feb 20, 2004, 04:57 pm	#10 (permalink) (top)
SeanWah Molten Ash Posts: 47	</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (damnrad) It has been tried before by various groups with widely-varied ideologies. It's only worked for one group -- the Mormons.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> Actually, a large group of socialists flocked to Vermont, which happens to be NH's neighbor (and part of the reason NH was chosen). And believe me, it's worked there. </span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by I think it's misguided, arrogant, and bordeline treason.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> Treason? Moving in pursuit of my right to life, liberty, and happiness is treason? Working within the system to effect change is treason? I think you're misguided, arrogant, and fascist, but I guess where we differ is that I would die defending your right to be a misguided, arrogant fascist. </span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Packratt) It'll be fun to watch a bunch of feudal warlord wannabes run off and try to enslave each other after they can't get any workers to come with them since they all want to be the wealthy autocratic slave-owning boss.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> You have some misconceptions about libertarianism. The economic side of it is as much in favor of defending the rights and interests of the consumer as it is about the businessman. I happen to diverge from libertarians on a few such issues, but overall, you have to be either misinformed or brutally dishonest to believe the ideal encourages or supports Third World-style sweatshopping in any way. Anyway, yes, I support the FSP and I'm actively a member.