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Originally Posted by (Bayou,) </span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Mathieu)
As far as I know, people earn their money because of knowledge ans skills. Those skills were acquired from someone else who had to learn them. How could you have money without the help of other people ? Alone you are nothing, as free as you are. Well if you want to regress to stone age ...<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>
</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Jackney Sneeb)
I agree with cooperation. That is the opposite of the state. The state is coercion. <hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>
No you earn money because of your worktime invested in a job that an employer decides what percentage of that worktime is yours and his.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>
What does that have to do with "the state is coercion, the
opposite of cooperation"?
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Originally Posted by (Bayou,) You cannot earn money unless someone is willing to buy what youre working for, and since you cannot aquire neccessities in society without money, a person is forced to focus on the rate of pay as the guidline ot his well being.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>
Or go into business for himself, and help lots of people get what they want through trading the product of his labor for what others have to offer. How is that the same as state coercion?
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Originally Posted by (Bayou,) [The capitalist system is coercion, the state is coercion.
Two faces of the same side of the coin.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>
__a) "If you agree to give me 'x' I will give you 'y,'
__b) "Give us a chunk of your wages, or we will lock you in a cage. If you resist, we will use lethal force to gain your compliance. Then, we will decide what you should get, if anything, in return."
Which one is cooperation, 'a' or 'b'? Which is coercion? Which represents the state?
--Jackney Sneeb