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Quote by: Starboy The other thing about Descarte's so called arguments regarding existence and god is that he presumed what he was trying to show. Not very logical or honest.
Fact is logic by itself cannot prove anything. One must start with some assumptions, or in the case of Descarte some presumptions. And of course the funny thing about reality is you can have the most logical argument in the world but you still have to check it in actual reality.
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Well that's what Descartes tried to do - build his logic on axioms, building up a philosophy just like euclid (sic) did with math. The only probem is that his first axiom was "I think therefore I am". Once you get that abstract, words like "I", "think", and "am" really have no meaning. The whole idea of anything existing really becomes meaningless. Philosophy on this level is useless.
All the logic in the world is useless with a starting point that is assured.