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Old Jun 12, 2005, 02:34 pm   #18 (permalink) (top)
caspian88
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Pale Rider, my argument hinges on this - where do we get these natural rights from?

Answer - nowhere. These "self evident truths" are ideas that were mutually agreed upon by many, if not most, people. They are not something that any person has a right to based solely on their existence, it is a convention that came about over several thousand years. Saying that they are "natural" was a result of religoius influence and the ignorance and idealism of the times.
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