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SVMc · Feb 19, 2004, 07:25 pm

I think you attributed many more claims to me than I addressed. First of all I have not looked into the wait period (I will in the next few days). For now I know that wait periods measured at that long of a time are frequently measurments taken in rural northern townships, I have yet to find a study that describes that lenght for an othopedic surgeon in the cities. On a personal note I waited about 30 min. to be referred to one this summer in an emergency room and was given an appointment in the morning... I know this is not uncommon where I live. But I will look for varifaible sources.

Second, I did not say that 40% of americans were denied service I guessed it was 40% did not have coverage. According to the UNDP 2003 report 40 million Americans do not have coverage (I don't know what percent that is someon can look that up). This is also sourced by new internationalist.

Yes America spends more on elder care than Canada, this is in large part due to the larger force of a baby boom in the States compared with Canada, also higher immigration rates keep have effected our demographic rate in respect to age. Per Capita figures would need to be looked up on a demographic basis, if anyone has sources on these feel free to supply them.

As for "kicking or assets" sure the U.S. has better equipment than us already. But more of our population has access to our sufficent equipment and when there was a short fall of MRI in Southern Ontario the government did arrage cross-boarder transfers before they were able to open a new facility last year.

As for the claim that we have droves of citizens streaming accross the boarder to your hospitals I have seen no such proof. Please provide sources.

Finally it really depends on how "better" health care is measured. Sure the U.S. has better technology, more diverse choices of medication etc... but I still think Canadians have better access.... the U.S. insurance system is widely critized as a conglomerate. And if the U.S. system is so good why all the fuss about imported drugs from Canada?

Feb 19, 2004, 07:25 pm	#55 (permalink) (top)
SVMc Lazy Sniper Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 513	I think you attributed many more claims to me than I addressed. First of all I have not looked into the wait period (I will in the next few days). For now I know that wait periods measured at that long of a time are frequently measurments taken in rural northern townships, I have yet to find a study that describes that lenght for an othopedic surgeon in the cities. On a personal note I waited about 30 min. to be referred to one this summer in an emergency room and was given an appointment in the morning... I know this is not uncommon where I live. But I will look for varifaible sources. Second, I did not say that 40% of americans were denied service I guessed it was 40% did not have coverage. According to the UNDP 2003 report 40 million Americans do not have coverage (I don't know what percent that is someon can look that up). This is also sourced by new internationalist. Yes America spends more on elder care than Canada, this is in large part due to the larger force of a baby boom in the States compared with Canada, also higher immigration rates keep have effected our demographic rate in respect to age. Per Capita figures would need to be looked up on a demographic basis, if anyone has sources on these feel free to supply them. As for "kicking or assets" sure the U.S. has better equipment than us already. But more of our population has access to our sufficent equipment and when there was a short fall of MRI in Southern Ontario the government did arrage cross-boarder transfers before they were able to open a new facility last year. As for the claim that we have droves of citizens streaming accross the boarder to your hospitals I have seen no such proof. Please provide sources. Finally it really depends on how "better" health care is measured. Sure the U.S. has better technology, more diverse choices of medication etc... but I still think Canadians have better access.... the U.S. insurance system is widely critized as a conglomerate. And if the U.S. system is so good why all the fuss about imported drugs from Canada? Capitalism is: Man exploiting man. Socialism is the other way around.