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Old Jun 11, 2005, 11:02 pm   #85 (permalink) (top)
Technosoul
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I read the O.P. and a couple of the follow up messages then jumped to the last page to make a comment or two (hope I do not repeat anyone).

During the time Jesus was on the cross he continued teaching by giving examples of the four attitudes that we should attain too. The attitude towords self, the attitude towords other people, the atttude towords God ( defined in many ways) and the attitude towords life (how to live). So he was not personally having a moment of doubt when he said "why have you forsaken me" but was demonstrating the attitude we should all have towords "truth and God" whom I would define as the "The Mind of the Most High". It is the attitude of questioning and seeking (the answers we need to understand "what's up"). Often Christians confuse seeking or questioning with doubt, and then suggest that doubt is the lack of faith or belief. I do not agree with that conclusion because one would not be seeking, or questioning the meaning of life, if they did not have some faith or belief in the idea that it might be possible to someday, somehow, become enlighted to the answers.

Sort of like watching a girl do a dance where she slowly removes one silk layer of clothing at a time until at last the naked truth of her mystery is revealed. Huxley at the peep show watching the mystery through the doors of his perception (altered state perception). Blessed are the poor in spirit for they shall see God. Blessed are those who have the most doubt because they will ask the most complex questions and get all the good answers. The Greek meaning for the word "reason" is "of God" but in phylosophy that Reason is within the person and not what some book, religion, or preacher man tells you.

The Garden comment about not wishing to drink from that cup has another whole "story" behind it that I wish not to go into in this message (but had nothing to do with doubt).

Those who do not believe in God simply do not believe in the words of preachers because preachers do not base much in the resource of Reason. The missing link is that Reason (internal source) is the real "face of God" which is also called "the indwelling spirit of truth".

If you do not believe in Jesus, that is okay. If you do not believe in someone's elses concept about what a God is, that is okay. But if you turn away from belief in the indwelling spirit of Reason - then you are indeed up the creek with no paddle.

Now you know.

Technosoul.
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