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Originally Posted by (MRSEinstein,) TO LIBERTYMINDED:
I think you are rather close-minded in your approach to Christians and what they believe. All Christians do not agree upon the same things as stated in the Bible or even things that occur in churches. I see that you did a little research on the origin of the Bible, but even in that, you are lacking the full understanding and the bigger picture that your explanation tends to allude to. THE BIBLE was a human product, divinely inspired, yet also only written by humans. Since we humans are prone to make mistakes and to complete things with error, of course the Bible will have some things wrong with it. I see that point. But being a Christian helps me to understand that even though the Bible is not inerrant, our God is! He is not a human product. We did not get to mess Him up, as we have obviously messed up this beautiful world that He created for us (due to our free will).
Secondly, I don't believe in the whole "fire insurance" as being a way to convert others to Christ. When I got saved, I did not do it just to get out of going to hell and eternal damnation and spiritual torture. I got saved because I loved God, and wanted His touch and spirit in my life. I was not stating earlier that people should get saved for that reason. My logic is that since I am saved, I am a lot happier that I get to go to Heaven someday... I believe in Heaven and Hell. It is not a decision for me to have to make whether or not I am going to Heaven or Hell. Since I follow God, I get to spend an eternity with Him.
Thirdly, I do not see the use in name-calling... That is very immature... "you 'mental crutch' using dipwads"
Yeah, you really accomplished something with that. Very funny.
Lastly, you raised the points about Noah and the arc and other stories... It does not matter to me whether they are fully accurate or not. I just am sooo thankful to God that we are still here. Who says that God was finished creating animals and other things before the flood? That is something that no one really knows about. God could have just as easily have created more animals after the flood... Either way, having them on the arc was all managed by God. He made sure that everything would go smoothly.
You still haven't answered the question I asked earlier...
Why is it so horrible to believe in God?
What does it hurt?
The answer, my brother, is that true Christianity hurts no one. God is perfect and you are not. He has better plans than you do. Get off your prideful attitude, and realize that someone is over you and is the true creator of the universe. He needs no evidence for He is God! Science can not prove God completely, because science is even below Him. We are thinking with closed minds and only on a humanistic level here. "Burden of Proof"---"Bull". Get off that. YOU and no other scientist can ever be as wise as GOD! Sorry, no offense to those of you that think that you have to have a scientific explanation for everything... We can't even decide on a good cure for AIDS, let alone the power of Almighty God. So I am just suggesting that maybe you should think a little more with your hearts and not your stubbornness and rather small intelligence levels. Oh yeah, you still haven't proven to your case to me yet. God exists!<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>
Ha ha ha ha ha!
Now this shit's REALLY funny!
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Originally Posted by I see that you did a little research on the origin of the Bible<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>
Oh, you mean, like, the TRUTH, right MRSEinstein?
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Originally Posted by but even in that, you are lacking the full understanding and the bigger picture<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>
So, in other words, though his history lesson to you as regards the Council of Nicea and their fabrication of "The Bible" out of hastily cobbled together incomplete treatises with little historical value or for that matter truth to them; it has no bearing on the "truth" of the matter?
JESUS H.CHRIST IN A CHARIOT-DRIVEN FUCKIN'SIDECAR!
What the hell is it gonna take to get through to ya, huh?
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Originally Posted by that your explanation tends to allude to.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>
Explainations don't "allude" to anything, they explain.
Clearly and concisely, with little question as to their validity.
Just as this explaination was given.
All else is deceit.
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Originally Posted by THE BIBLE was a human product, divinely inspired<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>
Prove it!
The truth is provable.
Period, whereas the idea of "divine inspiration" is not.
QED, untruth. Conjecture. Myth.
That is elementary, my dear Einstein.
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Originally Posted by Since we humans are prone to make mistakes and to complete things with error, of course the Bible will have some things wrong with it.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>
Fuckin' hilarious!
Who's your writer?
Ever thought of doin' standup?
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Originally Posted by But being a Christian helps me to understand that even though the Bible is not inerrant, our God is!<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>
How can a now proven pack of lies, deceit, myth, and outright propaganda help you to "understand" anything, Einstein?
The truth will set you free, while lies breed ignorance and complacency borne of ignorance.
And, whattaya mean by "our god", huh?
What makes YOU think, first off, that YOUR god is THE god, huh?
Maybe "god" is actually the god of the people of Tau Ceti, who just happen to think humans are quite tasty, and you've been deluding yourself all these years.
What if "god" is actually Shiva, and you shoulda been a fuckin' Hindu, huh?
How egotistical the christers are, and the hindus and the muslims.
I doubt that any REAL "god" could possibly be that egotistical and still be "god".
Don't you?
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Originally Posted by He is not a human product. We did not get to mess Him up, as we have obviously messed up this beautiful world that He created for us (due to our free will).<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>
Bullshit, prove it.
Prove it, prove it, prove it.
Otherwise it is superstition and myth, not "truth".
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Originally Posted by Why is it so horrible to believe in God?
What does it hurt?<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>
Because its ignorant, superstitious and primitive.
Any other questions?
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Originally Posted by God is perfect<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>
See "prove it" above!
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Originally Posted by He has better plans than you do.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>
And again.
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Originally Posted by Get off your prideful attitude, and realize that someone is over you and is the true creator of the universe.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>
There is no evidence of that, so get off your moralistic high horse and accept that the universe is a purposeless and empty place and your place in it is no more or less important than a grain of sand.
Until there is proof, that is the truth.
Sorry to disapoint you, Einteiny, but that's how it works.
Blind faith goes nowhere, and fast, man.
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Originally Posted by We are thinking with closed minds and only on a humanistic level here.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>
Try opening your mind to fact, babe.
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Originally Posted by "Burden of Proof"---"Bull". Get off that. YOU and no other scientist can ever be as wise as GOD!<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>
Now you're just bein' silly.
The computer you use
works because
science works!
Everything about your existance now, on this Earth, you enjoy because science is the best thing goin' for mankind. If the christers had had their way about it, we'd still be serfs in fief to some feudal lord!
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Originally Posted by So I am just suggesting that maybe you should think a little more with your hearts and not your stubbornness and rather small intelligence levels. Oh yeah, you still haven't proven to your case to me yet. God exists!<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>
Lalalalalalalalalala!
The number thirteen is unlucky!
Breaking mirrors brings seven bad years!
Never light three on a match!
God exists!
Superstitions all.
Here:
Merriam-Webster Online
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Originally Posted by Main Entry: suˇperˇstiˇtion
Pronunciation: "sü-p&r-'sti-sh&n
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English supersticion, from Middle French, from Latin superstition-, superstitio, from superstit-, superstes standing over (as witness or survivor), from super- + stare to stand -- more at STAND
1 a : a belief or practice resulting from ignorance, fear of the unknown, trust in magic or chance, or a false conception of causation b : an irrational abject attitude of mind toward the supernatural, nature, or God resulting from superstition
2 : a notion maintained despite evidence to the contrary <hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>
Get it?