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Old Jun 11, 2005, 12:57 pm   #26 (permalink) (top)
Starboy
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What strawman are you talking about?
Just look in any of the threads were supernaturalists post with atheists. They are full of strawmen. Take your last post.

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They insist that there isn't a God, never was one,
All I insist is that there no more evidence for the god that you claim exists than for the god that you say does not exist. But for some reason theists don't get this. They just about never seem to get this.

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the Universe isn't a product of Intelligent Design,
All I insist is that IDiots that think what they advocate is science will continue to be IDiots. That if the only way they can get their ideas taught is by way of school boards instead of actually doing science then they are IDiots. That they lack the honesty to admit that ID is not science but religion dressed up like science.

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that anyone that believes such is a liar and totally dishonest,
All I have insisted is that the person that insists their beliefs are the "truth" but do not subject their ideas to the same standards that they would subject any similar idea, that person is dishonest and a hypocrite to boot!

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then, when you say something like this might be true, they demand scientific proof to substantiate your belief.
Good example of the hypocrisy and dishonesty of supernaturalists, because if someone came to them and claimed that Crum rules the world they would require the very same things that an atheist would ask for.

But for some reason theists do not get it. All they can do is provide these strawman claims that in any other context they would recognize as obvious strawmen.

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And what's "very dishonest" about thinking that the Universe was created? Of course I could be mistaken, but so what, what's that to you? Where do you believe the universe came from?
Again a strawman. I have always said is that it is not what supernaturalists believe that makes them dishonest, it is how they came by and justified those beliefs and the claims they make about those beliefs that makes them dishonest.

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"They have no more justification for their behavior than a junkie. Especially in the light of their current political behavior."

What is this supposed to mean? What behavior do I need to justify, and why would I ever need to justify it to you? What exactly do you know about my "current political behavior" anyway?
In my experience when you dig into a supernaturalist’s beliefs long enough you come to their base reason for holding those beliefs. You find that they have no rational reason for holding them at all. That their primary reason for holding those beliefs is emotional and it is always in the form of emotional support. They believe because it makes them feel good in some way. It gives them some sort of comfort. It helps them cope with an existence that they are incapable of comprehending in the smallest way or they unable to accept an existence that could at best be indifferent to them. Their belief is a psychological reaction to reality. They are engaged in coping behavior. Not all that different from most junkies.

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