Thread: Verification
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Old Feb 19, 2004, 03:04 pm   #10 (permalink) (top)
Geoff332
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If I am wrong, then you will tell me exactly how the verification principle itself can be objectively verified. Your refutations don't work. The first two have all been addressed by Wittgenstein -- in essence, can I objectively prove I am reading this post? Or can I merely confirm that it is my subjective experience. Given that it is necessarily my experience, then it is inherently subjective. The latter three are all positions to which can be answered in several ways. In short, none of the answers are given.

It is interesting that you say, "I prefer truth, reality, and objectivity". While personal preference may be interesting and useful, it is also unquestionably subjective. If that is the basis of your support for "truth, reality and objectivity" then it sounds very much like a self-defeating position.

Your basic argument seems to rely on the very circular falacy that Hume critiqued: thre must be objective truth, becuase if there is not objective truth then there cannot be objective truth. Unfortunately, that proves nothing except that you (subjectively) assume that there is objective truth. Hume's arguments are quite a bit more sophisticated and he does not deny objective truth (rather he denies the posibility of deriving necessary truth from inductive logic).

All of this is secondary: demonstrate to me how the verification principle itself can be objectively verified (without reference to anything subjective) and I will happily conceed you are right.
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