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Quote by: Starboy Thanks for the clarification regarding proof but what about the "logical arguments" you alluded to?
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Logical arguments applied to religion:
Most discussion of religion is not in fact argument, because there are exceedingly few logical paths to derive the premise of the religious belief from.
Even though I myself use a somewhat logical path to my own beliefs, I shy away from most "logical" religious derivations, because most religious arguments that are claimed to be logical are in fact obviously flawed, and zelously nieve. A religious person who requires his belief system to make total sence is extremely egotistical in believing that they can make total sence of the plans/purposes of God. Religion is based on faith, not logic. Faith at it's deepest level is merely trust in god and his subtle manifestations. Again, religoin is primarily faith based, not logic, but the catch here is that there has to be some validity to the faith. That initial kernal of faith does have to be based on logic. Unfortunately most religious people base their initial faith on thier parents or peers, and not a personal search .
Anyway, the small logical beginning for faith? I cannot speak for all, but I can speak for myself and those in my faith. Here is a scripture from LDS cannon which best describes this belief:
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And when ye shall receive these things, I would exhort you that ye would ask God, the Eternal Father, in the name of Christ, if these things are not true; and if ye shall ask with a sincere heart, with real intent, having faith in Christ, he will manifest the truth of it unto you, by the power of the Holy Ghost.
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Though the majority of my beliefs are faith based, God cannot expect someone to swallow an entire set of beliefs and way of life with no rational starting point. This is that starting point. Science is in the buisiness of making predictions. Wheather or not the theory makes sence, it's ability to make predictions essentially establishes it's validity. That is the format of this scripture, and it is the very small, logical basis of my belief system.
That said, I still generally despise logical arguments and proofs of religoin, because they are neither logical or proofs.