| </span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by
I understand your dilema - as I see it, you two have misconstrued and perhaps misunderstood each other and it has gone past the point of logical debate. <hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>
Naturally I take issue with this claim, given that it is quite clearly false. Yes, as I have demonstrated, m5 has indeed twisted and avoided what I have clearly stated, but I have been quite careful to use her own words and statements so as to avoid the same difficulty. I understand that you may be trying to make peace, which is itself of course admirable, but to do so at the expense of truth is of course never admirable.
As for being a good debater, actually I am quite a poor one. The object of debators is to "win" over another, to convince others to swing to your own side. I have kept the same goal: truth, which means that if a sound argument is offered by another, I will immediately take it to heart and abandon the opposing position. As I tried in vain to get across previously, this is NOT a matter of personalities, or one person "winning" over another, it is about accurate reflection of reality and understanding truth.
Perhaps you are correct and none of this has anything to do with truth at all, or reason, or critical thought, and instead it is mere emoting and opininig without any grounds, but I take any and all statements purporting to describe reality at face value and seek out understanding, confirmation, and objective evaluation of them. For this, some choose to lash out and make false accusations. Fear is a powerful emotion, but it is completely unnecessary in this situation. |