[Leopard]

</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by
Furthermore, the government is necessary as a countervailing power to corporations. Indeed corporations are de facto quasi-governmental bureaucracies exercising de facto political power over workers and consumers. Corporations can be oppressors as well as governments.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>

I agree with the topic poster, but disagree with RadMaterialist here - I posit that no corporation can be an 'oppressor' WITHOUT the consent/cooperation of government - in fact, it is SOLEY due to governments' abusive powers that corporations have any power at all (which is gained THROUGH manipulating government).

I realize this is a seperate thread, would you care to expand on your views Rad and start another thread more appropriate?

only in liberty,
michael

(BTW: yes, I am libertarian with a dash of AnCap thrown in for fun)