[shunyadragon]

</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (sdcinder,)
Religion and creationism and evolution. Well, this is an interesting one. I will admit that I have not read the past 15 pages of debate. Even in creationism there are two differing opinions: catastrophism and slow evolution. I myself am a catastraphist. God spoke and BANG it happened. Suddenly there was a flood and it rained for 40 days and 40 nights. Certainly don't have to be a CHRISTian to believe that one, there is a group in the Philistines I believe that are so deeply involved with the Great Flood that they still build their houses in the shape of boats in honor of their version of Noah. That would validate the significance of the Flood for sure since they are on the opposite side of the world as to where Noah was supposed to be from.

I am thoroughly of the mind that we were created by the Creator of everything. I do not believe that we evolved from apes, from monkeys, from fish, from a pond full of muck. Nope, can't buy that either. Within species? Yes, certainly. I think I hit on this topic in the religion forum though. Someone said that they had never heard the arguement of an amphibian crossing with a mammal and yet in the same breath, I assume, they believe that we have all evolved from primordial soup. Wouldn't that indicate that we were all amphibians? They how in the world did we get all this hair and warm blood??? Oh, yes, one more thing about amphibians, some of them are able to change sex if there are too many of one sex in the area. I am certain that we cannot do that just by shear will of our brain or genetic make-up. I could not decide today that I am going to become male and like women... LOL! Nope, I am quite happy being a woman.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>

Are you a catastraphist by faith or do you support 'Creation Science'? I believe there are two potentially different views. The faith catastraphist believes existence was created literally as it is described in the Bible and the evidence that science claims for evolution and billions of years of history was created as is. Those that support the 'Creation Science' view believe the scientific evidence supports the short time biblical view of creation.

There is nothing in the evolution view that says amphibians cross with mammals and humans descended monkeys or apes. As to sex it is not uncommon for humans to be born with both male and female traits and some people are born apparently very female, but become male as they mature.

The evolution from a pond full of muck is not exactly how science views the beginnings of life.

Technically in both versions animals and humans come from the same source, the earth, therefore we are all related. What is wrong with the evolutionary model of the relationship between all life on earth? Are the animals so offensive to us we don't want to claim kinship? I think humans might likewise be offensive to animals that they wouldn't want to claim kinship. In our history humans have been more offensive than the animals.