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Originally Posted by (Disinvented,) Absolutely, burn it all to the ground. I'll add, though, that there is no obligation to not rule others.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'></span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />
Originally Posted by (Jackney Sneeb,)
I disagree. I think each of us has an obligation to leave other people alone (unless they invite our company), keep our hands to ourselves (unless they give permission), and generally mind our own business. Naturally, some people won't accept that arrangement. That's anarchy for you.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>
Where does this obligation come from? Some higher power? It would have to in order to be an obligation, inherent to all.
Just like the cheetah has no inherent obligation to not exploit the antelope to his benefit, neither does the politician have any inherent obligation to not exploit us to his benefit.
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Originally Posted by (Disinvented,) ...In actuality, civilization is an anarchy.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>
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Originally Posted by (Jackney Sneeb,) That's true. It does not follow that we therefore must accept the status quo and tolerate assholes trying to impose their will on us by force.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>
I certainly agree; you are no more obligated to tolerate transgressions against you than they are obligated to refrain from comitting such transgressions. I once saw a show (on Discovery Channel?) that showed a desperately hungry lioness attempting take a bite out of a rhino, and ending up a little bruised and bloody. A fitting lesson: sometimes the prey fight back, and sometimes predator and prey exchange roles. The secret to dealing with the stuff you mentioned is to retrain your mentality from prey (chronic victim) to predator, I suppose.
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Originally Posted by (Disinvented,) The strong and in-power exploit us, just as the weak are exploited in nature.
...I do yearn for its destruction-- Society's, the Establishment's, Civilization's--as a general threat to my security and contentment, just as I would seek the destruction of a threatening predator in nature.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>
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Originally Posted by (Jackney Sneeb,) I suggest a way to do that is to help others quit supporting politicians. I've seen several former DemocRATs, Repooplicans, and Libertarians give up their irrational belief and quit voting, and begin to resist taxes. That is how we will abolish the belief in "government": one person at a time.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>
I was such a democrat, turned Libertarian, turned "small L" (non-party) libertarian, turned anarcho-libertarian, turned "deep anarchist". The common anarchist/libertarian is so busy shouting for things to be fair, for the Man to recognize his rights, that they find my mentality to be too pacifistic. They want radical action, whereas I know already that I am free.
And I'm all for revolution, though recruiting others to one's mode of thinking is a delicate endeavor. It's like the Matrix (the first one, not those other two pseudo-religious reels of crap, excuse the lame movie reference), many people don't want to be unplugged, and most are too far gone anyway.
You should check out buildfreedom.com, this article in particular:
The Anatomy of Slavespeak <http://www.buildfreedom.com/tl/tl07a.shtml>