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Old Apr 1, 2005, 04:02 am   #26 (permalink) (top)
Matt W
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as muslims we know the alternative
No. You have an opinion about 1 possible alternative. There is never just the alternative.

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you are telling me you prefer women to be paraniod at night
No. You're twisting my words. I am telling you that the West fought long and hard to ensure corporal punishment was no longer an option. There were reasons for that. I believe that the reasons for re-implementing corporal punishment are insufficient. If we're talking about women, though, I prefer them to be able to dress the way they want, to go where they want by themselves, and to have equal rights to men.

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statistics reveal how high the rape level is in USA/UK) Even though none of the muslim lands implement the shariah, we still know that the level of rape there is far less
Got a source for that?


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have we seen a Black man in presidency in a predominant white nation? Have we ever seen a woman president in USA? Will a Muslim be allowed to be president in any european, or western nation?
No to the first, no to the second, but I'd like to point to Margaret Thatcher if you want an example of women in power in the West. When will a woman ever be in power in the Caliphate? As to the third - not yet. Soon, I believe, but not yet. Predjudice dies. It's an ugly monster, but it dies. And that is why anyone can become president - not just a Muslim. I fail to see why you would insist on excluding non-Muslims from being Caliph. Surely it's all about ability?

Basically, whilst I feel that Islam has an awful lot to commend it, there is still the fact that it is based on tenets drawn up 1400 years ago. And that's the latest 'mainstream' religion. No religion is capable of regulating modern society - human nature doesn't work like that. Certainly, it wouldn't work in Europe or the US. As I have pointed out, we have too many freedoms & rights that conflict fundamentally with Islamic Law. And we will not give those up.


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