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Old Mar 30, 2005, 11:28 am   #16 (permalink) (top)
Nabeel Saiyer
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Agreed tha the Islamic State did deteriorate towards its demise.

However, with regards to the Societalk laws, I disagree that Judasim and Christianity had laws aside from Individual, and moral laws.

Give you an example:

From the traditions of the prophet we have learnt that muslim can not harm women and Children, and to the extent that not even trees and shrubs (i.e. indicriminate killing is not permitted) Unlike what we see in todays very advanced modern warfare.

Islam has a detailed explanation of company structures, and what types of businesses are not allowed to be privatised, and explains how the contracts between 2 parties are to be drawn up.
e.g. There is no concept of PLC (Public Limited Companies) as there is no particular body that is held accountable, and can easily dissolve itself and the public is at loss.

The state owns the Oil, Water and Gas (natural resources) and is in charge of utilising it to benefit the state as a whole [it is a separate discussion, of how is the state regulated, and accounted]

Islam has defined how inheritance is to be split up in all the various circumstances [This is what gave rise to Algebra (Al Jabbar a)...which was created by a person who used to calculate the inheritance, named Jabbar

Islamd has given us how to put a leader in place, and how to account him, and a detailed government structure of with deputy caliph, the Peoples representattives (Majlis Al Shura), the various courts, i.e. Penal Court, the court that deals with accounting the Caliph, etc etc

Islam has stipulated the types of taxes
For all muslims (except those under a certain threshold) is Zakat which is 2.5% of their annual money not spent. (Compare this to 22.5% - 40% of income, plus all the other taxes.

For non muslims it is a security tax (which is upto the discretion of the Caliph, however it is capped at the Zakat i.e. 2.5%) Again this is ONLY impose on the WORKING Males.

And there is Land Tax.

The only oither tax system is when there is a state emergency like Tsunami, where the State reaches out to the Rich, and then if still more is required, the state appeals to the Middle class, and then finally all the rest.

Just as any other ideology, which seeks to advance itself, and get its message to the rest of the world (Like we see Bush & his cronies trying to implement the free markets, and Democracy) Islam too seeks to spread its message, Indonesia for example was liberated from ther pre Islamic system with not a drop of blood, rather the muslims who went to trade there explained Islam, and the people accepted it. Can any other ideology make such a claim?

Point being,

Islam has a detailed Economic System, Social System, Ruling System, Eductaion System & Foreign Policy

Although I agree Judaism, Christianity, and other will claim Budhism, and Hinduism also have rules and laws, but they are more individualisitic, to do with Morals, and rituals not to govern a society.

I guess for this to become a fruitful discussion, we should ask that is man able to make laws better of is there a need for divine texts to regulate human life. I.e. Does Man know himself better, or does the creator? Or another worthwhile discussion would be that Capitalism is progressing and is definitely the system that will save man from misery.


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