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Merlin,
Just so we know where this is to go....
Are we arguing over the definitions of Faith and Belief or should we define them before we continue?
Thanks,
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Merlin replies.........It seems to me that we have already defined these terms, and I understand your point. but from your post it seems that maybe you dont understand mine, as you fail to reply to specifics....correct me if I am wrong...
I am implying that faith is not definable from belief. And to elaborate, the method used to different between faith and beliefs are subjective.
Now, you may be correct to say that the probability of a belief resulting in a anticipated outcome is greater for a common belief system., While a faith based system results in unanticipated (but not necessarily wrong) outcomes . This does not validate the belief system as being more accurate than a faith based system.
There are many examples of world veiws erroneously accepting a completely false scientific paradigm because of flawed particulars or evidence.
Consider the (Deceased Carl Saga) of his times . Claudius Ptolemaeus believed the Sun, Moon, and other planets circled the Earth. Oh! and this scientific world veiw persisted for 1500 years! If you had lived then and based your BELIEFs on the truths and facts of the day , you would be 100% totally wrong . The faith based (church and religious) system of the was arguably at least as accurate as the common science beliefs of the day. Why should we believe that today’s theories are more accurate than Mr. Ptolemaeus?
If history is any indication, 1000 years from now the big bang theory will be as quaint as the earth centered universe. And everything that you believe as fact today will be 100% wrong!
With the history of major sciencific theroies being wrong more often than not, doesn't it seem what one must accept scienceific trusisms on faith not fact? And this faith is only faith and not a trusim.
Faith, my dear fellows is what we base our "scientific world view on." That is unless you deny the history science's of sordid half truths and numerous erroneous statements of false facts as truth. Scientific discovery isn't discovery at all, it is more like the medieval church that declares theirs as the only truth and any other non main stream theories as heresy.
The "truth" remains elusive, and may be more akin to religion than science.
faith in science or faith in a deity, its all faith.
mb