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MerlinsByte · Mar 28, 2005, 03:09 pm

A BABBLE DELUX BUT A TRUE BABBLE IT IS

I believe in God or an intelligent designer. However playing the devils advocate is easy because of the tidal wave of (incomplete) theories that abound. One to the most promising is the universe coming into existence from a virtual Quantum zero point energy flux. However even that demands that a vacuum of empty space be present.

We all should know from high school physics 101, that there is no such thing as an empty vacuum, a theoretical "empty" vacuum is a "something." So when thinking about the creation of everything in the universe we must first consider nothingness from whence it came. The awesome concept of "nothing" is difficult for the western mind to comprehend. Much more difficult than infinity. Think of it this way, nothingness encapsulates infinity, and God encapsulated and created nothingness.

What one must complete when trying to understanding the creation of everything is that you must accept that the answer will be of an impossible to prove nature. The creation force (go ahead call it God), IS THE POWER THAT CREATED ORDER FROM NOTHING. IT LIES OUTSIDE OF THE NATURAL LAW DRIVEN UNIVERSE AND IS THEREFORE INFINITE IN POWER AND INFORMATION.

To believe in this force is called FAITH. Scientists are fond of saying that faith (As in the belief that God is "real," or even a simple truism that the next day will bloom into existence) is a quaint notion but is useless to science.

I would beg to differ, pointing out that today's most dearly held theories are accepted on FAITH, that is, a faith of scientific methodology.

We have beautiful elegant (incomplete) theories that explain all manner of natural phenomena. To accept an incomplete theory is to take this theory on FAITH! As distasteful and down right repugnant to some men of learning this is nevertheless a fact. The scientists are priests of a scientific method, their God is the belief in themselves.

It is my belief that to belief in a creation force a God that created everything logical. Consider the newest theory of the day. The universe sprang into existence from nothing. And we live in one universe out of a finite number of universes that just happens to support (semi) intelligent Life!

It that is your wish believe that wicked crap. I live in one out of the infinite universes that has a living God in it!

mb

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MerlinsByte BANNED Posts: 1,267	May The Forces Be With You(es) A BABBLE DELUX BUT A TRUE BABBLE IT IS I believe in God or an intelligent designer. However playing the devils advocate is easy because of the tidal wave of (incomplete) theories that abound. One to the most promising is the universe coming into existence from a virtual Quantum zero point energy flux. However even that demands that a vacuum of empty space be present. We all should know from high school physics 101, that there is no such thing as an empty vacuum, a theoretical "empty" vacuum is a "something." So when thinking about the creation of everything in the universe we must first consider nothingness from whence it came. The awesome concept of "nothing" is difficult for the western mind to comprehend. Much more difficult than infinity. Think of it this way, nothingness encapsulates infinity, and God encapsulated and created nothingness. What one must complete when trying to understanding the creation of everything is that you must accept that the answer will be of an impossible to prove nature. The creation force (go ahead call it God), IS THE POWER THAT CREATED ORDER FROM NOTHING. IT LIES OUTSIDE OF THE NATURAL LAW DRIVEN UNIVERSE AND IS THEREFORE INFINITE IN POWER AND INFORMATION. To believe in this force is called FAITH. Scientists are fond of saying that faith (As in the belief that God is "real," or even a simple truism that the next day will bloom into existence) is a quaint notion but is useless to science. I would beg to differ, pointing out that today's most dearly held theories are accepted on FAITH, that is, a faith of scientific methodology. We have beautiful elegant (incomplete) theories that explain all manner of natural phenomena. To accept an incomplete theory is to take this theory on FAITH! As distasteful and down right repugnant to some men of learning this is nevertheless a fact. The scientists are priests of a scientific method, their God is the belief in themselves. It is my belief that to belief in a creation force a God that created everything logical. Consider the newest theory of the day. The universe sprang into existence from nothing. And we live in one universe out of a finite number of universes that just happens to support (semi) intelligent Life! It that is your wish believe that wicked crap. I live in one out of the infinite universes that has a living God in it! mb