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damnrad · Feb 12, 2004, 04:37 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (18tir,)
I do not think God exists. There is absolutely no evidence for his existence. All we have are a few claims by primitive people thousands of years ago. We have not seen any evidence of any miracles or other supernatural happenings. There is about as much evidence for the existance of a God as there is for witches, goblins, dragons, giants and other mythological creatures. Christianity has as much credibility as the religion of the ancient Greeks and Egyptians. <hr size="1" /></blockquote>

OK, we've beat this horse dead. And some might take issue with your assertion that Christianity has fully as much credibility as those other religions. ;-)

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (18tir,)
As to the belief in afterlife, this is harmful and untrue. First, nobody has ever seen this afterlife that is mentioned by so many religions. We do not have any reason to believe that it exists. Second, belief in the afterlife and a future paradise makes this life unimportant and meaningless. If this life doesn't matter and most of us will live an eternity in another world, why should we care about our lives? Why should we care that millions of people starve to death or killed? According to religious propagandists, these people end up in heaven. Belief in an afterlife and God makes people uninterested in solving their personal problems. They drift away into a fantasy thinking about the paradise that they will supposedly one day reach. Some might commit suicide to reach this imaginary place.<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

Evidence for harmfulness? Yes, some religions have used faith in an afterlife to try to dominate this one. On the other hand, many people have taken comfort in the concept of an afterlife, and this has allowed some to resist tyranny, including that of tyrannical religions.

I count myself a humanist and focus on what is good for humans in this life. I assume that if there is an afterlife, it neither negates the importance of this one nor calls upon me to act in ways inimical to humanism.

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (18tir,)
Religion has not done any good for humanity. It has caused many wars and genocides. It has made people more intolerant and less humane. It is a disease.<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

That can be said for many belief systems. Pots and kettles, and all that.

Feb 12, 2004, 04:37 pm	#95 (permalink) (top)
damnrad Igneous Magma Posts: 264	</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (18tir,) I do not think God exists. There is absolutely no evidence for his existence. All we have are a few claims by primitive people thousands of years ago. We have not seen any evidence of any miracles or other supernatural happenings. There is about as much evidence for the existance of a God as there is for witches, goblins, dragons, giants and other mythological creatures. Christianity has as much credibility as the religion of the ancient Greeks and Egyptians. <hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> OK, we've beat this horse dead. And some might take issue with your assertion that Christianity has fully as much credibility as those other religions. ;-) </span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (18tir,) As to the belief in afterlife, this is harmful and untrue. First, nobody has ever seen this afterlife that is mentioned by so many religions. We do not have any reason to believe that it exists. Second, belief in the afterlife and a future paradise makes this life unimportant and meaningless. If this life doesn't matter and most of us will live an eternity in another world, why should we care about our lives? Why should we care that millions of people starve to death or killed? According to religious propagandists, these people end up in heaven. Belief in an afterlife and God makes people uninterested in solving their personal problems. They drift away into a fantasy thinking about the paradise that they will supposedly one day reach. Some might commit suicide to reach this imaginary place.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> Evidence for harmfulness? Yes, some religions have used faith in an afterlife to try to dominate this one. On the other hand, many people have taken comfort in the concept of an afterlife, and this has allowed some to resist tyranny, including that of tyrannical religions. I count myself a humanist and focus on what is good for humans in this life. I assume that if there is an afterlife, it neither negates the importance of this one nor calls upon me to act in ways inimical to humanism. </span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (18tir,) Religion has not done any good for humanity. It has caused many wars and genocides. It has made people more intolerant and less humane. It is a disease.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> That can be said for many belief systems. Pots and kettles, and all that.