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Quote by: star boy It is not a corner that I paint myself into. We already do not recognize teenagers as full grown adults. We must somehow intuitively know that they are not. Gee I wonder why that is. |
I never said that we recognize teenagers as full grown adults...but they are human beings...it is you who has suggested that no one becomes a human being until he or she is able to reproduce...strike that, you said that we are not human beings until we HAVE reproduced...you most certainly are in a corner with that one and you simply are not going to be able to get out without first admitting how terribly wrong you are in such a silly assertion...children and adolescents not human...what a goofball...
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Quote by: star boy You asked the question, I answered it. Too bad you don't like the answer. It is a fact that being able to produce viable offspring is part of what constitutes a species. If you want to place man above nature then you have entered the realm of religious argument but if man is of nature then our understanding of nature is fair game in this discussion. |
It isn't that I don't like your answer..hell, I laugh out loud at your answer...How about you give me a link to some credible source that says that one does not become human until one is able to reproduce...for that matter, how about a credible source stating that any creature is not a member of its species until it can reproduce...
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Quote by: star boy Even those who are considered dead even though their bodies are alive?... |
Why don't you give an accurate description rather than trying to dance around the truth...the words you are looking for are brain dead...and again, one can not compare the condition of a human that is vital and growing to one who is injured and in the process of atrophy...in either case, growing, or dying both are human until body function ceases and a time of death is pronounced...
Note that in the medical jargon one is kept ALIVE by artificial means...not kept dead by artificial means..
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Quote by: star boy Good for you but biochemistry is still not biology. It is more like organic chemistry for cells. It is not as if they deal with multi-cellular organism as animals. |
Do you suppose that one just takes "bio chemistry" courses....is that your impression of higher education? Does it not occur to you that if one is to major in biochemistry that one must have a thourough education in both biology and chemistry...as well as math and physics? Maybe you should look up a generic cirriculum for biochemistry...
And still I wait for you to enlighten me as to what species you belonged to before you became a human....you realize that people are reading this don't you...how silly you must look to them suggesting that their kids have not yet become human...that unless they have kids of their own that they are not yet human...again...goofball comes to mind...