Actually starboy, I have a medical degree...I am a mere dentist, but I have biology and biochemistry up to and including the 5000 level. I don't discuss issues at that level out of courtesy to those who might read my posts...Talk of gymnosperms, endosporic microgametophytes, micropyles, ovules, angiosperms, and megasporophylls only serve to give one the appearance of elitism and either sends one's readers running back and forth to the dictionary, or gets one ignored altogether because of the gratuitous and pointless use of technical terms...
And I never inject religion into this discussion...if I couldn't defeat the pro life argument without religion, I would not engage in the discussion...we will note, that it is you who has brought religion into the discussion...
And now you are trying to make some comparison between a growing vital human being and one who has been the victim of some sort of massive trauma...you are certainly going to have to do better than that....
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Quote by: pale rider And again I ask, what species were you prior to being born...you were clearly alive because you were growing...if you were alive then you must have belonged to a particular species...in other words, you were a living, growing _______....I will let you fill in the blank... |
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Quote by: star boy What cell was a tomato cell before it was a tomato? A tomato seed. A tomato seed is not a tomato. What cell was a chicken cell before it was a chicken? An egg. Everyone knows that an egg is not a chicken. You know this and yet you refuse to acknowledge it. You keep repeating this lame mantra. A human cell is not a human. We don't call tomato seeds tomatoes for obvious reasons, we do not call eggs chickens for obvious reasons and we should not call a human cell a human for the same reasons. |
Do you see how twisted your argument is...it prevents you from even admitting that you have always been human...as if you have at some point been of some other species... And one really can't accurately compare plant biology to animal biology...The DNA inside a fertilized chicken egg is no longer that of either of its parents...it is a chicken embryo....it is a living, growing uniquie member of speices gallus domesticus. That is, it is a living growing chicken that is neither its father, nor its mother. To prove this point, why don't you go out and crack a few eagle's eggs...you will not be imprisoned breaking eggs, you will be imprisoned for killing harrassing and killing eagles...
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Quote by: star boy We don't call tomato seeds tomatoes for obvious reasons, we do not call eggs chickens for obvious reasons and we should not call a human cell a human for the same reasons. |
We also do not call newborns teenagers, or adolescents centigeneraians, or toddlers embryos...each of the names is a term that describes an individual at a particular stage of development..we also do not call zygotes cells for a very particular reason...they are not just cells, they are new members of whatever species they happen to belong to, unlike blood, or bone cells...
Again I ask you..before you were born you were a living growing member of what species?
By the way....not all seeds are fertile...pine trees are known for producing seeds without the presence of pollen...but many plants produce infirtile seeds...next time you load your bong look for hollow seeds...they are the ones that have not been fertilized....