[Starboy]

Quote by: Pale RIder If those seeds are fertilized then indeed they are tomatoes...they simply haven't developed to the point at which you would want to eat them...and death happens in stages...if you are hit by a car and your systems are terminated, all the cells in your body will have ceased to function within about 30 minutes...the E coli and other forms of bacteria that continue on and start the process of decomposition are not your cells, they are symbiotes.

Very funny. You accuse me of not knowing anything about biology and yet you continue to make these dumbass statements. Keep it up and it will be obvious to all that you are a dumbass. And a dishonest dumbass because you will have known you are ignorant and rather then argue from knowledge you will persist to argue from ignorance and yet try to convince people that your argument should be taken seriously.

A seed is always fertilized. It is the equivalent of the single fertilized human cell ready to go. But it is easy to see that if you got your science from a bible that you would indeed be an ignoramus since they were very fond of calling sperm seed and not the fertilized egg. In fact in the bible they never make mention that women produces eggs at all. They referred to the womb is the soil to plant a man's seed in.

As for you car accident, so what? You can also be incinerated in a fire and not only will all your cells be fricasseed it will kill every cell in your body. But hey, why am I surprised that you do not get this. After all you think that arguments from ignorance are legitimate.

You can kill the brain of a human where most of the cells in the brain are alive but cease to function as a brain but all the primitive brain cells still function, all the cells in the entire body are still alive. And if you keep that thing on a feeding tube you will have something that is completely alive and yet is still a dead human. This fact appears to be lost on you. You do not seem able to see that this fact means that being human is not just about living cells. That if the cells do not operate in a specific way that the human is dead even though all the cells are alive. Now maybe you do understand this but refuse to admit it because if you did then you would have to admit that the opposite is also the case. That when a human is being constructed from a single cell that what starts off is only a living cell but that as cells are created at some point you get a human being. And this would shoot your entire argument to hell, not that it has not already been shot to hell since only an idiot would confuse a tomato seed with a tomato.

And again I ask, what species were you prior to being born...you were clearly alive because you were growing...if you were alive then you must have belonged to a particular species...in other words, you were a living, growing _______....I will let you fill in the blank...

What cell was a tomato cell before it was a tomato? A tomato seed. A tomato seed is not a tomato. What cell was a chicken cell before it was a chicken? An egg. Everyone knows that an egg is not a chicken. You know this and yet you refuse to acknowledge it. You keep repeating this lame mantra. A human cell is not a human. We don't call tomato seeds tomatoes for obvious reasons, we do not call eggs chickens for obvious reasons and we should not call a human cell a human for the same reasons.

Go learn to count.
Go get an education.
Learn how to tell the difference between a tomato and tomato seed, an egg and a chicken, and a single cell and a human.

Starboy