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Old Feb 20, 2005, 11:59 pm   #27 (permalink) (top)
Richard 23
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Yeah that's right - Pot is illegal due to some kinda "Industrialist Conspiracy"!
Bravo! You've really internalized the establishment line.
Always reinforce the supremacy of coincidence theory.
Actually it's very fitting considering your handle.

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Why do all the pot heads always cry and bemoan the fact that while alcohol and smoking are both legal, their personal penchant isn't? I'll tell you why.
Hypocrisy, perhaps? Alcohol and cigarettes are irrelevant. One is not a substitute for the other, nor are they incompatible with decriminalized marijuana. The reason for the metaphorical tears should be obvious. Where there is injustice, there are tears. People deprived of liberty are not concerned with substitutes; they want liberty.

The "deal with it" attitude is tiresome and typical: it is always used to justify injustice. This country's history has shown that injust laws can be overcome by resistance but it often requires a lot of time. Unfortunately innocent people are marginalized and punished for their beliefs during that time, especially those who are vocal. I wish there was a better way.

But you wanted to answer your own question, so go ahead, tell us why the "pot heads" cry....

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Because we're all a bunch of selfish greedy and slovenly wasters. 'straights' hate pot heads because they see them as 'wasters'. pot heads hate 'straights' because they're always trying to 'kill the party'.
Why do you come across as really, really angry?
You're being awfully hard on the collective "we."
Things you hate about yourself can be changed.
Ask for help if you need it.

I can't speak for pot heads, but in general that type tends to be laid back to begin with, more so if they qualify as "pot heads." They have no energy or time for hate. They're laid back, not uptight. They might fear "straights" if they tow the zero-tolerance establishment line, because interaction with that type of folk puts them at risk. The thought of being thrown in jail, being deprived of liberty for a harmless difference of opinion is very disturbing to those that advocate a sane approach, a more reasonable drug policy.

Most straights probably don't care one way or the other. Then there are those virulent anti-drug folk who preach zero-tolerance and think it's great to deprive others of their freedom. Just because they dare to disobey, to make up their own minds. A marijuana user is doing nobody any harm in their minor act of civil disobedience. The law is wrong; it's imposition and enforcement has a negative impact on society. Criminalizing otherwise law-abiding citizens is a shame and encourages further disrespect for law.

I don't know who the haters you're refering to are.


Synthetic petrochemical plastics and fibers as well as inefficent chemical processes for processing wood into paper products are major sources of pollution and have been for decades. Legal hemp, a natural, renewable resource, would render much of the petrochemical based synthetics obsolete. Hemp could easily provide most of the pulp paper products currently in use such as paper bags, cardboard, sheet paper, newspaper, etc. The amount of chemicals required to process hemp is far less than for wood.

This was known to be true before 1937 and it remains true today. Most people are at least dimly aware of hemp's use for cordage, rope, netting, etc, in WW II. During that war, George H. W. Bush bailed out of a damaged plane before it crashed and was saved by his parachute, a parachute containing hemp fiber.

The only reason that hemp is not in wide industrial use today is because of an unwarrented fear of the medicinal properties of marijuana. Hemp, cannabis, marijuana.
Anti-drug hysteria prevents the benefits of hemp from getting serious consideration, even the medicinal benefits are strongly resisted.

You made a good point. Greed has a lot to do with it.

There is nothing new about corporations defending their bottom line against all competition using whatever methods are available. DuPont's newly patented petrochemical based synthetic [poison] would have a hard time competing with a cheap natural alternative. Established timber based paper industry would either have to compete or convert to the saner alternative. But DuPont probably had the most at stake.

I don't recall calling it a conspiracy, but I suppose that would be the correct word if DuPont was actively involved with spreading anti-marijuana propaganda with the hope that it would take hemp off the market and out of the way. The certainly wouldn't have benefited from the competition.

Let's just suppose they weren't involved and just got lucky and have remained lucky for almost eighty years now. It doesn't change the fact that industrial use of hemp is smarter, cheaper, more efficient and less polluting. There's no rational reason not to reconsider hemp. Except for those few that profit from it's continued suppression. The vast majority of us do not profit from this, we actually pay for it.



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Drinking and driving is just stupid. Smoking pot and driving is almost as stupid....
Let's just make it real simple.
Driving under an impaired state is a stupid.
An unnecessary risk to yourself and others.
Please, don't do it.

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Only users lose drugs
Hospitals are full of losers, so are bars, so are the majority of Americans, who consume an ever increasing tonnage of phamaceuticals and over the counter medicines daily.

When you toss insults you don't pussyfoot around.
You really cast a wide net.

If I wasn't more careful, I'd counter with something like,
"only fools make gross generalizations about...."
But then I'd be calling myself a fool. I leave that to you.
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