Fushigi, you said something that is quite the opposite of what the founders clearly pointed to as a truth of what does and what does not come from the state. When you said:
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"Rights" are given to us by the state, and philosophical debates about whether we have them or not are pointless. We have the rights the state gives us. End.
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This flies in the face of just about every single signer and author of both the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. If you were in the U.S.S.R. or in France during its Revolution you would only get your rights from the state (or soon Venezuela), however, our rights to life come from a higher source than man, government is only there to secure [not to say what] our rights [are]. At least according to those who signed our founding and other documents.
If someone thinks life is sentient at 5-months, or another at 3-months, or whatever, the benefit of doubt should always, and I mean always, be given to life. Once you start to say life doesn’t begin here, or it starts there… you are on a slope that gets slippery fast. There are story’s of babies being born and then euthanized. And others were aborted, but the abortion was botched and the baby lived, later to speak out against abortion. Do those who were supposed to be killed but lived have no say in this debate? Wouldn’t
they be the “go-to” person on the subject? Just curious.